Elk hunter nutritional needs

americanbwana

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After researching what food to bring to my spike camp this year, I have come to the conclusion that it really isn\'t talked about that much in detail :downthumb: . Most hunting sites only briefly talk about an elk hunter nutritional needs. In fact most simply say to just bring high calorie foods, with at least 100 per oz. But lots of calories do not a balanced hunting diet make. :eek:

Ok, here is the scenario. Day 1, you show up at camp, get everything up and running, do a little scouting, and hit the sack. But by the end of Day 2 you are almost exhausted, or close to ?hitting the wall?. What has happened is you have burned your reserve carbs, stored as glycogen. This has been stored in your liver or skeletal muscles. Many people blame the altitude, but this is only part of the problem. Over the next few days, you hit the wall earlier and earlier every day. You are not getting enough carbs.

Fat is stored energy. You start burning that when you run out of carbohydrates. This you may think is a good thing, but did you know that it is slow to burn, and is limited by the thin air at elevation. Eating lots of high fat calories may actually hinder your ability to hunt. :shock:

An average 150 lbs. hunter is going to burn about 430 calories an hour. A 200 pound person can burn well over 600 per hour. Let?s say you hunt 10 hours a day, this means you need from 4000 ? 6000 plus calories a day.

Many experts talk about bringing about 2 ? 2.5 pounds of food per day. This will provide about 3000 ? 4000 calories. Since most of us have some extra fat, we can allow this deficit to consume the extra fat in our bodies. This is where we get the weight loss from. A 1000 calorie deficit equals 2 pounds of weight loss per week. Losing 10 pounds in one week sounds great. This equals 35,000 calories. Yes 35,000 calories, or 3,500 calories per day :!: . I?m not a doctor, but that does\'t sound to healthy to me :ill: .

So what is my take away? Loose weight before the hunting trip! :train: Eat adequately during the day, breakfast ? pre-dinner snack, you need lots of frequently consumed complex carbs, with some fat. Oatmeal, clif bars, pro-meals, GORP. Lunch can still be your favorite sandwich, but be consider adding some additional carbs to it. Dinner is where you can add the fat and protein. Your body needs protein to repair itself, and the fat can be stored/processed while you sleep.

As for me, I?m happy with a 1,000 a day deficit, or losing 2 pounds a week. What does this mean in terms of food? 5,000 calories is about 3.1 lbs. of food a day. So I?ll 21 lbs. of food for a week. Thankfully, I?m close enough to the trail head where I can restock mid trip.
 
thats alot to chew on dana.
my diet is terrible while im hunting. mainly consists of jerky, protein bars an drinks, nuts, cold cuts, an monsters. not healthy, but im just not hungry. i rarely ever cook while im hunting. not suggesting that as im sure i would hunt better. but cant make myself eat. im anxious to see how this works for you.
 
I`m with bnsafe about not being hungry while I am hunting. Even when I get in at night after not eating much all day I`m not really hungry. I really have a hard time eating right to loose weight before I head out since I can`t stand vegies so it is hard to eat healthy. I grew up on meat and potatoes and still eat that way. I try to limit the portions and work out and loose about 15 pounds before I head out.

Dang AB 7 years ago I was hunting and lost 20 lbs in two weeks so by what you said I burned 70,000 calories on that hunt. That was the first time since I was 20 that I was 190 lbs.

If anybody knows how I can eat better while not eating vegies let me know. :help2:
 
Francis, I have the same problem. Just not Hungary to to tired to eat.

I think every one loses weight when hunting.
 
\"AmericanBwana\" said:
An average 150 lbs. hunter is going to burn about 430 calories an hour. A 200 pound person can burn well over 600 per hour. Let?s say you hunt 10 hours a day, this means you need from 4000 ? 6000 plus calories a day.

AB, where did you get those numbers just out of curiousity? That sounds extremely high to me, but I am by no means an expert in that field. I don\'t know if I would burn 400+ calories an hour while running and I am over 200lbs.
 
\"cohunter14\" said:
\"AmericanBwana\" said:
An average 150 lbs. hunter is going to burn about 430 calories an hour. A 200 pound person can burn well over 600 per hour. Let?s say you hunt 10 hours a day, this means you need from 4000 ? 6000 plus calories a day.

AB, where did you get those numbers just out of curiousity? That sounds extremely high to me, but I am by no means an expert in that field. I don\'t know if I would burn 400+ calories an hour while running and I am over 200lbs.
the heavier you are the more calories you burn. the mapmyrun app on my phone said I burned 5083 calories in my 5.5 hour marathon run.... my 27 min 2.8 mile run it said I burned 561 calories. and I weigh 195. it has you input your weight on the app.
 
I weigh 176 now my top weight ever was 180 this winter. I want to get to at least 170 before elk season which should be no problem 165 even better. I wake at 4:30am and eat an egg sandwhich with 2 eggs hard, a slice of cheese and a slice of ham with 8 ounces of milk. I eat 1/2 cup apple sause and a pbj sandwhich at 9:00am. I eat a meal leftover from supper from the night before at 12:00pm. When I get home at 3:00-3:30 I have some kind of snack. Supper is 5-6pm. Finally at 9:00pm when I am done with my days work I have a shake with 1 bananna,1 1/2 cup milk, a scoup of protein,and 3 tsp of sugar free pudding.

I am hungry every few hours especially if I am working hard. I carry plenty of snacks while hunting and eat 2 good meals. I will loose about 10lbs in 3 weeks. I seem to find it soon after I get home.
 
\"cohunter14\" said:
\"AmericanBwana\" said:
An average 150 lbs. hunter is going to burn about 430 calories an hour. A 200 pound person can burn well over 600 per hour. Let?s say you hunt 10 hours a day, this means you need from 4000 ? 6000 plus calories a day.

AB, where did you get those numbers just out of curiousity? That sounds extremely high to me, but I am by no means an expert in that field. I don\'t know if I would burn 400+ calories an hour while running and I am over 200lbs.

I looked at several, here are two.
Calorie Calculator
And Livestrong

These number match up pretty closely with the calorie app I use.
 
I found I took too much food in on my backpack hunt last Season. I was still outwalking two younger guys that were eating twice as much as me during the course of the day.

I make breakfast bars that have about 300 calories or so. About 9 AM I\'ll eat some trail mix. about 1 PM a peanut butter, bacon, honey sandwich. Maybe some jerky around 3 PM or so. Mountain House for dinner.

I have to force myself to eat all that. I think staying hydrated keeps my stomach full. Not sure what to do, I do not feel like I lack energy, and I do not lose very much weight over the course of 10 days of hard hunting.

I do not think you can generalize nutritional needs. The human metabolism varies greatly from athlete to athlete. Just my two cents :think:
 
\"zpd307\" said:
my 27 min 2.8 mile run it said I burned 561 calories. and I weigh 195. it has you input your weight on the app.

Those numbers sound more in-tune with what I would expect, 561 calories burned in about 3 miles. But unless you are covering 20+ miles a day, I don\'t think you are going to be burning 4,000+ calories. And if you are covering 20 miles during the day, you might want to adjust your hunting style :D I think the thing to keep in mind is that, although you are going to be out hunting all day, calories burned is going to be based on the activity you are doing.

I cover a lot of ground on my hunts, but I also eat pretty well each day (I would guess somewhere around 2,500-3,000 calories of intake). Like Jeff, I never really lose substantial weight during my hunts. This is where my confusion lies. If I were to eat 4,000+ calories, I would be gaining weight during the trip I think...
 
\"AmericanBwana\" said:
I looked at several, here are two.
Calorie Calculator
And Livestrong

These number match up pretty closely with the calorie app I use.

AB, those numbers make sense, but keep in mind that you are not going to be hiking every minute you are out there. If you go to a spot and sit for one hour calling, you can remove those calories. Do that 3-4 times a day, and you just dropped 2,000 calories from your needed intake. Just something to think about...
 
I wonder what people\'s regular daily intake is?
Are most as health minded when sitting watching their favorite football team on Sunday afternoons?

I have been researching Mnt House and other food that hunters/hikes use and for the brief time that we are going out to the woods and eating this stuff, does it really matter?
So what if it is high in sodium. Will 10 days or so be that harmful?

I mean, come on... the first thing I have when I get back home is a big fat cheeseburger :haha: :haha: :haha:
 
I think the thing that really matters is the carbs, trying to keep your energy up. But I truthfully don\'t pay a whole lot of attention to diet, both at home and in the mountains. Like you Brad, I have a double cheeseburger as soon as we get back into town. And typically, I have one before we leave town on our way into camp as well :lol:
 
Did someone say Cheeseburger?

I usually grab a double quarter pounder, fries and a diet coke on the way up.

It usually gets it revenge about sunrise opening day :lol:

Double whopper with cheese on the way back.

Well if anything, the topic will get people to think about what they are eating when out and about.

AB
 
i dont count every calorie, but i amost always have a good idea where im at. now sometimes i know im way over mind ya, but its a choice
 
Dana
I\'m glad for this thread. It shows the nutritional needs for the average elk hunter includes cheeseburgers! ;)

Like I said, we need to keep things in perspective!
 
A heck, I lobbed you guys a slow pitch softball.

No one commented on my choice of drink with double quarter pounder.
 
hell, I drink diet dew. can stand the sugar version anymore. way to sweet and syrupy.
 
\"AmericanBwana\" said:
A heck, I lobbed you guys a slow pitch softball.

No one commented on my choice of drink with double quarter pounder.

LOL!!! That\'s because I do the same thing! Makes you feel good about yourself for making ONE good decision at lunch, right?? :lol:
 
Mileage will definitely vary in terms of food on a hunt. It\'s a balance each of us has to find.
If I eat small amounts throughout the day, I feel better and have more even energy levels. But I don\'t like eating a lot--or carting a bunch of food around. So each morning I pack a snack-size bag of mixed nuts, two apples, a PB & bacon sandwich, & some home-made cookies or bars. And lots of water. That\'s usually it, including dinner, even when I\'m hunting dawn til dusk.
Best part? No utensils, no cleanup, and no dishes! Wish I could get away with this at home...
 

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