Elk Hunting Forum - When you hear a bugle
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First thing is to assess how confident I feel about the location of the bugle. Sometimes, confidence is high, but most of the time I can only tell location with a large +/- area.
Second thing is to assess the mood of the bull and guess his intentions and try to sort out \"Why did he bugle?\"
If you\'re in CO, you may add a new \"first\" ... try to assess if it\'s a bull or a hunter!
Second thing is to assess the mood of the bull and guess his intentions and try to sort out \"Why did he bugle?\"
If you\'re in CO, you may add a new \"first\" ... try to assess if it\'s a bull or a hunter!
I have trouble telling just where the bull is too. I will listen for a second bugle to try to narrow it down then head off in that dirrection. I will give a location bugle if I don\'t here another from the bull to try to get him to bugle back so I can narrow down his location.
Buglemaster
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- Aug 25, 2017
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It seems like most of the time the first thing I do is turn to my pardner & ask if he heard a bugle. My hearing is terrible, but I\'m so amped that sometime I hear voices in my head :crazy:
I generally will mark general location & distance away as well as note wind direction. If wind cooperates I\'ll start slipping in & throw out a small bugle periodically to keep track of him. Get close & set up. Unlike the famous Danny Moore, I call in more bulls with cow calls than by bugling.
I generally will mark general location & distance away as well as note wind direction. If wind cooperates I\'ll start slipping in & throw out a small bugle periodically to keep track of him. Get close & set up. Unlike the famous Danny Moore, I call in more bulls with cow calls than by bugling.
Some have determined a bugle is a method of elk conversation.
This may be true, but I wouldnt want any new people [or experienced] to become baffled and confused by having to stop and think what a bugle meant.
Buglemaster does exactly what needs to be done, for ANY KIND OF BUGLE
1- Mark general direction
2- Distance
3- Wind
In the early morning hours, on top of the mountain, bow in hand, no one really cares what a bull is saying.
Keep it simple guys.
Listen for a bugle, get closer, make him bugle again [either by bugling or cow call], set up and bring him in.
This may be true, but I wouldnt want any new people [or experienced] to become baffled and confused by having to stop and think what a bugle meant.
Buglemaster does exactly what needs to be done, for ANY KIND OF BUGLE
1- Mark general direction
2- Distance
3- Wind
In the early morning hours, on top of the mountain, bow in hand, no one really cares what a bull is saying.
Keep it simple guys.
Listen for a bugle, get closer, make him bugle again [either by bugling or cow call], set up and bring him in.
elkmtngear
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- Aug 9, 2017
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1. hit the puffer to determine wind direction
2. Start moving!
As cnelk mentions, keep it simple, it\'s not rocket science at this point
2. Start moving!
As cnelk mentions, keep it simple, it\'s not rocket science at this point
\"cnelk\" said:
Right on Brad and Bunglemaster. :lol: I\'d hunt with either one of you guys any day.
It doesn\'t really matter what the bull is saying at this point. The important part is that the bull has given you his approximate location. The next step would be to close the gap. You don\'t have to answer until you get close unless you loose track of him. And if he is really vocal, you may not have to strike up a conversation with him at all. And most important of all, keep your nose in the wind when approaching him.
If I here a bugle I try to aleast cut the distance in half of where I think he is. I have my wind puffer in hand making sure I have the wind in my favor. If the bull has not bugled again I will try a couple soft cow calls to see if he talks, if not I move a little further maybe 50-75yrds wait a listen maybe a couple more cow calls and see what happens. Each time is different just go with your gut, sometimes you are on a dead run to close the gap or to get in front of a vocal bull. Sometimes you hear a bugle and you try to get him to bugle again with a cow call and next think you know he is standing 10yrds away staring at you. Thats is what makes it so fun you just never know what mght happen.
Lark Bunting
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- Sep 14, 2016
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For the experienced hunters:
What percentage are you successful after hearing a bugle? In other words, if you hear a bugle, are you 50% successful on killing that bull? 10%? 100%?
What percentage are you successful after hearing a bugle? In other words, if you hear a bugle, are you 50% successful on killing that bull? 10%? 100%?
Im not sure if hearing a bugle increase your killing odds or not.
But I do know it will increase the \'encounter\' odds dramatically.
And when encounters increase, opportunities increase.
And when opportunities increase....
A person has to remember that archer\'s overall success rates are APPROX 10% - bugles or not
But I do know it will increase the \'encounter\' odds dramatically.
And when encounters increase, opportunities increase.
And when opportunities increase....
A person has to remember that archer\'s overall success rates are APPROX 10% - bugles or not
Lark Bunting
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For common-folk, sure. I can\'t help but think of that the old saying, 10% of the hunters kill 90% of the elk.\"cnelk\" said:Im not sure if hearing a bugle increase your killing odds or not.
But I do know it will increase the \'encounter\' odds dramatically.
And when encounters increase, opportunities increase.
And when opportunities increase....
A person has to remember that archer\'s overall success rates are APPROX 10% - bugles or not
I want to be one of those 10%. :mrgreen:
archery bum
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- Sep 28, 2013
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I\'ve posted this on other forums, is 10% that accurate of a %. I do not have satellite or cable tv so the hunting videos I see are on you tube. So the ones I watch the most are common people like us folks here on a diy hunt. I still see most (not all) passing up smaller bulls and for sure cows. So the success rate is 10% but what is the opportunity % rate. I believe that it is much higher than 10%, if everybody was meat hunters and shot at every opportunity they had (cows and smaller bulls) would success % be more like 25% or maybe 30%? Even if they don\'t shoot they still have opportunity.
cohunter14
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- Jul 10, 2017
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archery bum, I think a lot depends on what season you hunt. If you hunt archery, you are probably going to have a better chance at finding elk since they are a lot more vocal at that time, when compared to rifle season. But I don\'t think there are that many people out there who pass up \'smaller bulls\' for trophies. Keep in mind that if you are watching it on video, there is a good chance that it isn\'t an \'average\' hunter. A lot of those youtube videos are from people who want to have their own shows someday. You also won\'t see many people post videos of the unsuccessful hunts
Bottom line, outside of a rare few who pass up on good opportunities, that 10% rule is pretty solid. Finding elk and getting a good shot opportunity, whether you are rifle hunting, archery hunting, or using a smoke pole, is very difficult.
Bottom line, outside of a rare few who pass up on good opportunities, that 10% rule is pretty solid. Finding elk and getting a good shot opportunity, whether you are rifle hunting, archery hunting, or using a smoke pole, is very difficult.
A Neighbor of mine that has been successful in bringing home his bull quite often once told me that when he heard a bugle he would pull his compass out of his pocket, set it to the sound of the bugle and take off as fast as possible. Being aware of wind direction is a given! He never said anything about trying to figure out what the bull was saying!
Bob Frapples
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\"cohunter14\" said:............ You also won\'t see many people post videos of the unsuccessful hunts
I love those few shows that show a good clean miss!
