Some Broadhead Questions...

cohunter14

Administrator
Jul 10, 2017
5,345
So I had my first chance to finally fire some broadheads yesterday. Let\'s just say it was an experience...

My father bought a couple of packs of Wac\'Em\'s, so I figured I would give those a shot and see how they worked in my bow. First of all, what a complete pain in the rear end those are to put together! All three blades are individual pieces and there is nothing that holds them in when putting them together. I never realized they would be like this. After looking at some videos of Slick Tricks, those look a heck of a lot easier to put together since each blade is not individually assembled.

Anyway, we finally got a couple of them put together and onto arrows. We then went to shoot them at a new broadhead target my dad got on sale at Cabelas. This thing is only rated for 280fps, so we had my dad go first (his arrows are going about 275fps). The arrow went all the way through the target, so the broadhead was sticking out the back. It didn\'t bury to the fletching, but I still figured it was best to unscrew the broadhead before pulling the arrow back through...so another few minutes was spent gathering pieces and trying to reassemble the Wac\'Em. I had similar results...the target stopped my arrow, but it would take a half hour to get a handful of shots off. And to top it off, the broadheads were hitting low and right of where my field points hit, even after all the time I have spent tuning and shooting. :evil:

So, after my venting, here are the questions I have:
1) Are all broadheads essentially assembled like the Wac\'Em\'s or Slick Tricks, in some form or fashion? It just seems odd to me that the blades cannot be locked into place before being screwed onto an arrow.
2) Do all broadhead targets allow the arrow to penetrate all the way through, essentially meaning you will either tear the crap out of your target removing the arrow or you have to disassemble the broadhead?
3) If the Wac\'Em broadhead wasn\'t hitting with my field points, is there a chance that another broadhead would, or do I probably have an issue of some sort going on?
 
Here are a couple of videos showing the assembly of the broadheads I was talking about:

Wac\'Em:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI-f344Nzh8[/youtube]


Slick Trick:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPxaYBWdQq0[/youtube]
 
So, after my venting, here are the questions I have:

1) Are all broadheads essentially assembled like the Wac\'Em\'s or Slick Tricks, in some form or fashion?

No. I havent assembled \'Wac\'ems\' but I do like the way ST go together.
And I also like the ability to re-sharpen the ST blades too





2) Do all broadhead targets allow the arrow to penetrate all the way through, essentially meaning you will either tear the crap out of your target removing the arrow or you have to disassemble the broadhead?

Some targets will do that. If my BH pass thru the target, I unscrew the BH and pull the arrow out.
ST really do some damage when you pull them out - due to the steep angle of the rear of the BH




3) If the Wac\'Em broadhead wasn\'t hitting with my field points, is there a chance that another broadhead would?

Yes. But that is why we shoot BHs to see where they hit. Each BH will have its own intricacies.


Or do I probably have an issue of some sort going on?

Maybe


I can tell you right now that if you are not liking the Wac\'ems, you never will.
You never get a 2nd chance for a 1st impression :)
 
Also,

When you put a BH on an arrow, be sur to spin test it on a hard flat surface.
You will see if it wobbles at all.

If it does, unscrew it and turn it back in to make sure it is seated correctly.

If it doesnt, then your insert may be outta wack.


This process is key to have BH fly like field points
 
Derek, I\'ll add my 2 cents.

I believe most broadheads have to be put together at one point or another. I shoot Magnus Stinger 2 blade that come \'assembled\' so I just screw them on my arrow right out of the package. They\'re held in place by a small center screw so you can easily get the blades on/off for sharpening.

I shoot my BH at a closed foam target(think that\'s what they\'re called). I know it\'s strictly a BH target and if you shoot a field point you may never get the arrow out! I\'m shooting a 396 gr arrow at 293 fps and no WAY am I getting the broadhead even halfway through a 2\' block like target.

As Brad mentions, each broadhead can and will likely fly differently from each bow. My BH work well for me and my setup.

Good luck!
 
<!-- m --><a class=\"postlink\" href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm_mBH9lhRw\" onclick=\"window.open(this.href);return false;\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm_mBH9lhRw</a><!-- m -->
I don\'t use replaceable blade heads so I can\'t help you there. But here is a short vid on broadhead tuning for you.
 
Thanks for the info guys. I\'ve got some Slick Tricks and a new target on the way. Hopefully some better results will be found soon :upthumb:
 
\"cnelk\" said:
I can tell you right now that if you are not liking the Wac\'ems, you never will.
You never get a 2nd chance for a 1st impression :)
This is very true Brad!
 
I started using Magnus 4 blade stingers and black hornets last year. I didn\'t shoot anything, but they are wicked sharp and fly like field points. Maybe this year I\'ll draw blood.
 
I started using VPA broadheads a couple years ago, and really like the solid design. Check them out. You can get solid or vented broadheads, and they are sturdy as a rock. There are no blades attached and machined from a single piece. They will crush through the front shoulder of a whitetail and no problem going through rib bones on an elk
 
I\'ve got a little experience with this but likely not as much as others. Slick tricks have been the best fixed blade broadhead I\'ve found but I have by no means shot them all. Spin testing and having your shaft and insert squared is critical. You may need to twist your nocks as each arrow will tune differently and that will be much more noticeable when a broadhead is screwed on. Just look up nock tuning, I was skeptical but it makes a difference and I was surprised to see how much of a difference it made. You can also tweak your rest just a touch to bring broadheads and field point poi together if it\'s not that far apart.
 
There are so many great broadheads on the market now. You just need to find something that works for you. For example: Magnus Black Hornets or Stingers, Shuttle Ts, Slick Tricks, Exodus, VPAs and Phatheads are all great choices in my opinion. There are many other choices too but you can\'t go wrong with any of them BUT none of them are perfect. They all have pros and cons. You will need to find out what is most important to you. I am shooting the Black Hornets right now. I love the big cut, sharpness and awesome flight but the steep blade angle in theory would inhibit penetration more than the Stinger. All things considered I prefer the Black Hornet vs. the Stinger. One thing to mention is that Magnus broadheads have a no questions asked lifetime guarantee. That goes a long way for many. You can compare each and every broadhead and you will find things you like and are not crazy about if you are being honest. Just pick what suits your needs the best and run with it.
 
\"cnelk\" said:
derek
Have you shot the Slick tricks yet?
Yes, I have been shooting them quite a bit over the last few days. First of all, they are way easier to assemble than the Wac\'Em\'s. As far as flight goes, they seem very similar. I was still having some issues with them flying to the right, but I realized it was a grip issue (again). As of now, I\'ve got them pretty darn close to the field tips out to 40 yards, which is as far as I\'ve stretched them so far. :upthumb:
 
Here was a three shot group at 40 yards with the slick tricks the other day. Notice the ripped fletching...I guess I need to stop shooting groups and aim at different spots on the target.

[attachment=0]<!-- ia0 -->IMG_1661.JPG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment]
 

Attachments

  • IMG_1661.JPG
    IMG_1661.JPG
    3 MB · Views: 167
rookie!! shoot the broadhead arrow FIRST. sheesh :D

i shoot at the same spot when i am trying to match fieldtips with broadheads. it plays a huge part of the mental game seeing them fly in the same spot. i need that mental advantage when i lay a pin on an animal.

broadhead first.
 
My question is...did Derek ask his daughter or son if he could borrow their play desk to use as a target stand for daddy\'s shooting practice? :think:

BH Target: Rinehart Targets to avoid burying the fletching. All other BH targets do not appear to stop a BH arrows very well. Unfortunately it is a bear to get FP arrows out Rinehart BH targets. If I rub the last 5 inches of the arrow shaft with a soap bar, it is a little easier.
 
\"mtnmutt\" said:
My question is...did Derek ask his daughter or son if he could borrow their play desk to use as a target stand for daddy\'s shooting practice? :think:
Oh that? That is Hoyt\'s newest archery target shelf. Completely waterproof, this table comes in your choice of color and height and......okay, you got me! :lol: I was giving my wife a hard time about that table last summer. She bought it for our kids and it just sat in the garage unused. Well, now it has a purpose and was well worth the $5 she spent at the garage sale!!
 

Members online

No members online now.

Latest posts

Back
Top