30 yds... whats next?
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iccyman001
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He is too small, so I pass.
JUST KIDDING....
I am waiting. I am hoping he will go from right to left and I will be waiting to hit him in a shooting lane.
JUST KIDDING....
I am waiting. I am hoping he will go from right to left and I will be waiting to hit him in a shooting lane.
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No shot but patients will pay big !! Looks like there will be shot opportunities as the trees have many openings. Let him walk and be ready ! That\'s one heck of a 5 point.
JohnFitzgerald
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If you take the shot......\"Excuse me sir, have you seen my bleeding bull?\"
Quartering towards is always a bad shot.
Quartering towards is always a bad shot.
I was hoping to get some responses a bit more in depth.
Obviously there isnt much of a shot at the moment, but lets look at the trees, not the forest!
The leaning tree and others look like they are in the way for the bull to proceed straight toward the shooter.
My bet he will move to the left, but those trees are too close together and if you stop him the kill zone could be covered.
To me, it looks like on the way left side of the pic is where the shot will take place.
Too many times I have seen people not look ahead for the best shot opportunity and in a second or two, its gone
Obviously there isnt much of a shot at the moment, but lets look at the trees, not the forest!
The leaning tree and others look like they are in the way for the bull to proceed straight toward the shooter.
My bet he will move to the left, but those trees are too close together and if you stop him the kill zone could be covered.
To me, it looks like on the way left side of the pic is where the shot will take place.
Too many times I have seen people not look ahead for the best shot opportunity and in a second or two, its gone
Brad........The problem is I can\'t change what the bull is going to do. I guess you could a bit, but that would involve letting him know you were there. Something i\'d never do. So, my only answer is the wait until he moves, and hope it exposes both lungs.
The real question for me is would I have put myself in that position to begin with? Keeping the wind in my favor I always try to move in a position that gives me the best shot.
The real question for me is would I have put myself in that position to begin with? Keeping the wind in my favor I always try to move in a position that gives me the best shot.
iccyman001
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\"Still Hunter\" said:
Pete,
if you were carrying a .300 win mag and not your muzzleloader; do you have a shot now?
I know a lot of people will take shoulder shots on deer to drop them in place. Do people do the same with elk?
Dan..........A .300 mag would certainly kill the elk from that angle. Personally, i\'d never hunt with a gun that powerful. I\'ve committed all my life to double lung shots only, and a 30-30, or muzzy is plenty of gun.
If someone wants to commit to getting close, and double lung shots only. They won\'t need those big magnums. Similar to what you bow hunters do, only you\'re even more restricted. I\'m sort of a bow hunter at heart, but use a gun.
If someone wants to commit to getting close, and double lung shots only. They won\'t need those big magnums. Similar to what you bow hunters do, only you\'re even more restricted. I\'m sort of a bow hunter at heart, but use a gun.
cohunter14
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I agree with Pete and I, personally, was thinking the same thing: dead bull for me! :upthumb:
\"cnelk\" said:
I guess that\'s what was going through my head when I looked at the photo.
My \"No Shot\" alarm was tripped, which immediately gets my eyes to looking around for where that signal will turn off. 1 or2 steps to the left won\'t do it, but past that, maybe. I\'m with Brad and positioning myself for a shot to occur to the left.
Of course he might do an about-face and walk straight away ... not much I can do about that.
A constant theme in elk hunting is to control what you can and accept that some things are not controllable. That bull\'s direction and speed of travel are not controllable because he is too close to manipulate with calling (unless maybe there\'s a caller 75 yards back, working as a team). But what IS controllable is my setup and it will be in the direction of the highest probability of a shot, not directly at the bull expecting to turn, twist, or rotate as he walks.
It might be hard to accept that you can\'t shoot at every bull you see. Especially, when it\'s your once in a lifetime hunt, and you saved for years for it.
However, it\'s the best thing to do. Just keep positive that you\'ll get an other chance before the hunt is over.
However, it\'s the best thing to do. Just keep positive that you\'ll get an other chance before the hunt is over.
I think every hunter should have to write this out 1000 times before he or she can get a license.
With this particular scenario, if you wait, you are probably going to get a good shot. Probably being the operative word. There is also a good chance he will turn and walk right out and never give you a good shot. That\'s hunting. One thing I would be a little iffy about is something needs to happen for you to get to full draw. You will get busted if you try to draw when his eyes are behind any of the shown trees. If you are already at full draw, you better hope you don\'t have to let down. If everything works out, which it usually doesn\'t, this bull will walk broadside. Getting to fully draw or holding is going to be the crux.
Quick little story. I have been in this position with a 5x5 that could be this guy\'s twin. I took my wife bowhunting on opening morning three or four years ago. In the first hour I blew a nasty bugle and this bull came running in to 15 yards of us. He stopped broadside with a small tree perfectly over his vitals. I have always wanted a giant 5x5 and I thought this was the one. I would have guess he would have gone 320 as a 5x easily. I was at full draw waiting for him to take a step for at least three minutes. His next step was a dead sprint out of there. I saw him the next year and he was an even bigger 6x. I\'m pretty sure it was him. I saw that bull for several years in the same area, he never left dark timber and he never had cows with him. At least once a day I think of how I could have gotten a shot, but... you don\'t always get the shot.
Release is on the D-loop with my right hand firmly seated on the grip. Quick glance to make sure arrow is cleanly knocked and on rest. Hopefully I\'ve cleared everything away from my feet so I can turn quietly as needed. Now I\'m scanning for the spots to get an arrow through when the bull is at the right angle. Judging from this pic, it looks like he may procede right to left and end up broad side even closer than 30. That\'s fine, I\'m attempting to judge distances on potential openings based off the known 30 yards if I haven\'t already ranged other objects. I\'m also looking for a draw opportunity, the trees look small so I\'m not sure his visioin will be blocked. If not I\'m going to have to attempt to draw very slow and smooth. Hopefully he looks away and I can draw quickly. If none of this happens and he turns and walks back the way he came from, I\'m looking for a 40 or 50 quartering away. If that doesn\'t work, I\'m one happy hunter I just got to see a bull! :clap:
I was kind of shocked nobody mentioned the frontal shot here. If he turns a little and is facing you head on there\'s huge opening to put one right in the center of his chest. I\'ve seen a few videos of that shot and it appears it works. Just wondering.....
Those little twigs on the leaning tree would mess with a frontal or quartering to shot. I would hold still and wait. Oh and be praying \"just move to the left and don\'t spook\"
The bull I shot this year was 30 yds and behind a blowdown. I was praying he didn\'t go right. He went left and into the clear lane. I slipped an arrow through his lungs
The bull I shot this year was 30 yds and behind a blowdown. I was praying he didn\'t go right. He went left and into the clear lane. I slipped an arrow through his lungs
