Entering a P&Y elk?

61 bull-very near 300

\'13 bull-274

I\'ve never entered one either though I\'ve killed a few.

Here\'s a pic of some \"PnY stew\" from a great Sept. 2013
 

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Yep, the whole pot :lol: or maybe I give ya\'ll the whole pot score and ya try to score them individually?
 
Yes, because I strongly support the P&Y organization for all the good work they do and the causes they support. Not because I need to see my name listed anymore.

That said, I have an elk and a muley that I haven\'t gotten around to officially scoring and entering, so thanks for nagging me!
 
Lou, can you tell me a bit more about P&Y?

I\'m not really even sure what kind of conservation and lobbying work that they do ...

And, honestly, I don\'t really even know about the requirements for entry ... in terms of bow specifications, etc.

Can you give me the \"selling points\"?
 
Deertick, many think the P&Y Club is just about listing who killed what big animal. That\'s the furthest thing from their mission, which is to \"ensure bowhunting for future generations by perserving and promoting its heritage and values\". The records program is a fund-raising mechanism, but also provides a massive database so hunters planning hunts can determine what sorts af animals are being killed in what counties, and when, to ensure that they are focusing on the best available opportunity at the time, not what happened twenty years ago.

P&Y is the ONLY national comprehensive bowhunting organization of its kind. They are heavily involved in funding youth outreach programs, conservation and research projects. They work with local and state bowhunting organizations on national issues. They fund dozens of worthy groups, too many to list, but including, National Archery in the Schools program, American WIldlife Conservation Partners, Ballot Issues Coalition, Hunting and Shooting Sports Heritage Trust, Chronic Wasting disease Alliance, Be Bear Aware and Wildlife Stewardship campaign, Hunting for Tomorrow foundation, North American Bowhunting Coalition, Becoming an Outdoor Woman, Judy Kovar\'s Hunting Heritage program, Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry, and many, many others.

Besides publishing a comprehensive record book every few years, they have also published two \"Traditional Journeys\" record books listing all of the animals taken by traditional gear, along with a bunch of awesome stories written by world-class traditional bowhunters.

Plus, they have the most amazing museum of bowhunting history, which I\'ve been privlleged to visit twice. You don\'t have to kill an animal of record book minimum to be a member, only to have taken an animal with a bow under fair-chase conditions.
 
Brad, I don\'t. The only ones I\'ve purchased are the two Traditional Journey editions. You may be able to buy older editions through the website. If you\'re dying to have one, remind me - I\'m planning to attend the next biennial convention next year (these are always a wonderful time, will never miss another one if I can help it...) and should be able to pick one up there.
 
The only equipment restrictions are: Bow must be hand-held and hand-drawn, so no crossbows or draw-locks, and no electronics can be attached to the bow or arrows. There are no draw weight restrictions or let-off rules, etc.. The Colorado DOW adopted the P&Y rules for state equipment regulations, but I think you live in WY, don\'t you?

So no, Brad can\'t use the new iPhone sighting/range-compensating system that attaches to the bow and you set up your shot through the phone screen ;)
 
Thanks, Lou.

I thought there was a let-off restriction.

And heck, in WY, we don\'t even have those fancy smart phones, so I think I\'m good. No one has accused me or my phone of having an unfair advantage over elk. We\'re both pretty dumb, in fact.
 
There was a couple year period where anything entered with a girly-man bow with greater than 65% letoff had an asterisk next to the entry, but that didn\'t last long, since manufacturers essentially forced the change by not making anything with less than 80% letoff. The asterisks were removed from all subsequent record books.

So now you can kill something with a 99% letoff bow and it\'s cool, Nancy. ;)
 
Damn ... \"Nancy\" ... caught that one right between the eyes!

I didn\'t know they got rid of that requirement. Sure opens up a lot new potential entries.
 
\"Jaquomo\" said:
The only equipment restrictions are: Bow must be hand-held and hand-drawn, so no crossbows or draw-locks, and no electronics can be attached to the bow or arrows.
I know someone who lost an arm and can\'t use a prosthetic. Curious, what do they say about drawing with your teeth?
 
Yes, teeth drawing is fine, so long as there is nothing to lock the bow in place at full draw. That\'s really the distinction.

Dwight Schuh write a great story a few years ago in Bowhunter about having to learn to draw with his teeth before going on a couple big hunts after injuring his shoulder. He had success, too, and said he actually shot pretty well that way.
 

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