I have some Judopoints which are basically the same. I like them. Fly good. They were recommended to me at the shop. They had both. A little cheaper but just as stout. Almost looks like someone copied the other. I heard that they are made by guys who used to work together but I may be wrong.
i think those are what my buddy shoots. he shot turkey with them. this one shot he shot just a tick high. the arrow plowed up his back..tail to neck. that bird died instantly. the wound channel...was a trench up the birds back. it was gross.
they are like throwing a tomahawk at the thing.
he missed a big deer, a cross wind jammed him up. i think on an elk, if they fly great would be devastating.