I always find it interesting to talk to people while hunting, so many say the elk are just not talking. I ask if they are doing any calling and they say no, or we though out a bugle every once in a while. For us, I call all the time and use different sounds and some times get a little crazy with my calling if it is quiet and it never fails, we always get elk to talk back to us. It may take a while some times but we never give up. It really pays for us to do this because we hunt very pressured areas since my dad can't walk much more then a mile in.