Just got back from shooting with one of my boys. He is a pretty good shot. He was shooting good out to 80 yards. Myself I am only good out to 50. I have a 60 yard pin but I dont do very well at that yardage. Anyway we were talking about elk hunting and reminiscing about past hunts. When I dropped him off he said "dad thanks for raising me up in the outdoors, love ya" Made my day