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I\'m not likely to get bent out of shape over any of those terms.

\"Harvest\" doesn\'t just \"soften\" the \"killing\" ... it\'s also a wildlife biology term, though it generally refers to the entire take of a season rather than a particular animal.

I\'m just at the point now where, when I think of this debate ... \"Man, I don\'t care.\"
 
\"Deertick\" said:
I\'m just at the point now where, when I think of this debate ... \"Man, I don\'t care.\"

Me too.

You guys know I can\'t sugarcoat anything...I kill \'em ! :mg:
 
\"Deertick\" said:
I\'m not likely to get bent out of shape over any of those terms.



I\'m just at the point now where, when I think of this debate ... \"Man, I don\'t care.\"

:upthumb: I make no apologies (Except to God) of who I am and what I do. Some people label me as \"easy going\" but I think its my lack of a need for approval. Killing is part of hunting, and I do it with respect. No \"spanking\", \"slamming\", \"wacking and stacking\" or \"smoking\" just hunting and hopefully killing.
 
What would you consider the the earliest time in september to carry snow chains with you in CO? Im looking at a week before season opens up to perhaps the third week.
 
Throw em in. Not for the snow but the mud. Some of that soil out there turns to grease with even the lightest rain. Chains saved a hunt in the breaks for us in sept. We would have lost about half our hunting days due to rain if we hadn\'t had chains. Don\'t wanna be sliding down a mountain road ever, no matter what time of year it is
 
Yet another thing to add to my gear list. do I need 2 sets? I\'ve never bought any but my buddy says they sold in sets of 2.
 
I live in the mountains of Colorado and consider the minimum equipment in my truck at all times to be the following.
1) tow strap or chain
2) tire chains for front and rear
3) shovel
4) axe
5) tool box with emergency tools
6) bucket ( I store my tire chains in it)
 
OOPS! I forgot to mention the Handyman Jack. I\'ve snapped the cable on a come along before :downthumb: Not a pretty picture. But the Handyman can lift as well as pull up to 7000#.
 
This year seems to have 150% snow pack still in the mountains that I hunt. With calving seasons just around the corner, will this affect where the cows will be this summer and early fall? From what I understand, rutting grounds will tend to be in the same areas. But for those who hunt the early part of September, Is there a chance some of the cows and bulls may be in lower elevations? Maybe affecting the grasses above tree line.......more than one question I guess
 
We have experienced heavy and light snow packs over the years, and I can\'t say it makes any difference in where the elk are in September. It could mean calves are born at a lower elevation, as I have seen where snow still covered traditional calving areas in May and early June.
 
I dont think it will have any effect.
The elk will follow the melting snow line back to their usual haunts, having calves along the way.

What could affect them more is if we get a heavy wet snow early/mid May into June
That happened in 2007.
I noticed a significant decrease in elk & deer after that spring.
The only reason I knew it happened was my ranching friends lost 15% of their calves that spring too for that exact reason.

So, if the ranchers have a good calving season, the elk will too.
 
One more ? Brad. So after this last weekend are you one of those in the camp that says turkey hunting is similar to elk hunting? By the way I\'m sure you had a good time.
 
Yup.
I think there are some parallels.
If turkeys could smell, they would be the ultimate \'White Elephant\' !!!
 
Do you prefer to setup your cold call setups as close to bedding areas as possible or just choose any transition area?
 
MtnMutt
I have \'circuits\' that we hit every other day or so. We will set up in the EXACT spots time after time.
Same tree, same draw, same same.
These are transition areas, catching the elk as they travel.

I have one spot that I have killed 4 elk - the area size of less than an acre, and killed others not far away.
 
If you won a guided elk hunt for 2, who would you take? My order of preference is as follows:

1) Wife (obvious reasons, life partner, best friend, yada yada....)
2) Dad (has only elk hunted once, unsuccessfully, but would enjoy the fellowship of the elk brethren)
3) The friend that is a very successful elk hunter whom I\'ve never hunted with but gave me all his intel where he hunts in NM if I ever get drawn.
4) One of the 4 guys I introduced to elk hunting last year (would have to draw straws, or better yet 200 word essay on \"Why take me.\"

Am I missing anybody? Who would you bring?
 
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