Operation: Rifle Accuracy

Terry, I guess the A-Bolt didn\'t come with the adjustable trigger like the A-Bolt II does. I have a good trigger setting on my 7 mag A-Bolt II. It could be lighter but never taken the time to adjust as it has worked well the past 20+ years.
 
\"Colorado Russ\" said:
Terry, I guess the A-Bolt didn\'t come with the adjustable trigger like the A-Bolt II does. I have a good trigger setting on my 7 mag A-Bolt II. It could be lighter but never taken the time to adjust as it has worked well the past 20+ years.
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I have not looked at it yet. It is an A Bolt Medallion. I got it in about 2001 or 2002. I will check the trigger with a scale soon then look at the mechanics and see if I can improve it some. I will probably get a Timney 2 lb spring for the trigger and try that first. I also want to get a Sims recoil pad. The stock one is hard rubber and that thing kicks like a mule!
 
Terry, the Medallion is a nice looking gun! I did a quick search and I think the adjustable trigger came with the A-Bolt II. I bought mine new with the BOSS when it came out - mid 90s. I don\'t think I\'d shoot a 7mm or 300 win mag without a muzzle break! Plus, it allows dialing in for various loads. Zeroed mine with Federal Premium and haven\'t changed the BOSS setting since.

I\'m not the shot that Derek and some others are here but I get respectable results. [attachment=0]<!-- ia0 -->target.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment]
 
\"elky McElkerson\" said:
my 257 wtby mag is bone stock. i should do it to it..new trigger and bedding, but the barrel is floating now.
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Do it Cliff! Would love to see the results :upthumb:
 
\"Colorado Russ\" said:
I\'m not the shot that Derek and some others are here but I get respectable results. [attachment=0]<!-- ia0 -->target.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment]
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That looks like some pretty solid shooting to me Russ!
 
For you Browning guys, I\'d be very curious to hear how the spring replacement works out. Sounds like it\'s pretty easy from what I\'ve read, but who knows. Keep us posted!
 
\"cohunter14\" said:
For you Browning guys, I\'d be very curious to hear how the spring replacement works out. Sounds like it\'s pretty easy from what I\'ve read, but who knows. Keep us posted!
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I got out my booklet that came with my Browning. It is a Browning A Bolt II. It does have an adjustable trigger. The book says 3 to 6 pounds. I checked it the way it came and it was 4.25. I adjusted the screw all the way in and it went to 3.75. That does not feel bad but nothing like the 10/22 I honed the trigger on. I checked a stock 10/22 and it was over my scales max of 5 lbs! I checked the 10/22 I honed and it was right at 2! Feels great and I love that trigger.

I am going to take the trigger assembly apart in the A Bolt and see how it works and if I can improve on the smoothness of the trigger or sear surfaces. I will either get a new spring or hone it. More to come...........
 
The barrel is floating. I can slip paper down to the back of it where it meets the receiver. There is approximately 1.5 inch area that is bedded at that point then behind the trigger near the rear bolt it contacts the wood. Nowhere in the receiver area does the wood touch. If I was to bed the barrel I would gain contact on 10 inches of the 26 inch barrel. I am not sure if I want to do that. I will see what the trigger work does first.
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mine is a stainless stalker that I bought in 94, it also has the boss.
the trigger spring looks super easy, it will take longer to get the action out than replace the spring! then I can see how well my factory synthetic stock is made, if it has any metal bedding.it did come factory barrel floated. my choices of stocks are severely limited and expensive......

I need a new scope for it, the old bushnell is getting cloudy..... vortex viper hs lr is my choice. I have to decide between the 4-16 second focal or 6-24 first focal..... heck its only money :lol:
 
Terry, tough to tell by those pictures but it looks like you at least have aluminum pillars in that stock. You could consider doing what I did and just bed the recoil lug area. Combined with the pillars, I think you would be in good shape :upthumb:
 
\"zpd307\" said:
I need a new scope for it, the old bushnell is getting cloudy..... vortex viper hs lr is my choice. I have to decide between the 4-16 second focal or 6-24 first focal..... heck its only money :lol:
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Gary, one thing to keep in mine is that the HS LR has 1/2 MOA elevation adjustments. Why Vortex did this on a Long Range model I\'ll never have any clue. Especially when they did 1/4 MOA adjustments on the windage turret. Anyway, with that being said I would highly suggest checking out the HS-T. It\'s very similar price-wise and I truthfully think it has a better reticle. The only downfall is you cannot get a 50mm Objective on the 4-16 model, but 44mm is more than enough.

When it comes to 4-16 vs 6-24, I would definitely recommend 4-16 unless you are only going to be doing long range shooting with it. 16x power is more than enough to shoot out there a looooong ways, but you still get the 4x power for close shots that might happen.

My two cents!
 
\"cohunter14\" said:
Terry, tough to tell by those pictures but it looks like you at least have aluminum pillars in that stock. You could consider doing what I did and just bed the recoil lug area. Combined with the pillars, I think you would be in good shape :upthumb:
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Derek, The pics are some I got offline. I do not have the aluminum pillars. The back is bare wood and the front is bedded in an epoxy like the second pic that covers that square block on the back of barrel or front of the action area.

What is the recoil lug? Is that the square block that is bedded in the epoxy?

Second question off of Gary\'s scope question. Would a 10x do ok out to 400-600 yds or should I think about a 16x-18x?
 
Yeah, the recoil lug is the piece that sits into the stock. If you look at the picture of the wooden stock you posted, you\'ll see that the hole the recoil lug sits in was not bedded. On the black stock it looks like it is. Having that bedded means the lug would fit tight in that hole versus being loose and allowed to wiggle around.

As far as the max zoom on the scope, 9x or 10x should work okay. But there\'s only one way to find out and that\'s shooting it. You might find that it\'s plenty of you might find yourself wanting more.
 
\"cohunter14\" said:
Yeah, the recoil lug is the piece that sits into the stock. If you look at the picture of the wooden stock you posted, you\'ll see that the hole the recoil lug sits in was not bedded. On the black stock it looks like it is. Having that bedded means the lug would fit tight in that hole versus being loose and allowed to wiggle around.

As far as the max zoom on the scope, 9x or 10x should work okay. But there\'s only one way to find out and that\'s shooting it. You might find that it\'s plenty of you might find yourself wanting more.
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The block is bedded on mine :upthumb:

I will give it a try this weekend with 5 rounds at 100 then mess with the trigger and see if that improves things.
 
I checked out that scope last night..... I have a 4-12 now and definitely want more! it could have something as simple as it being a crappy scope, but the elk at 400 yards was still pretty small.... and I didn\'t like my guessing on the hold over. needless to say, I hit her and didn\'t find her :downthumb:
terry, the recoil lug is the part of the action between where the barrel is screwed into the action. its a flat bar looking thing. the point of bedding it in epoxy, in the stock, is just like what was mentioned. it takes out the wiggle, when shot, for improved consistency. its an added brake, for the recoil of the shot, so the screws dont handle all of the stress....
 
I have a Leupold VX II 4-12x on my 220 Swift. I\'m punching prairiedogs out at 500 yards with no problem on a calm day. Can\'t understand the need for anything bigger. Prairiedogs are a heck of a lot smaller than an elk and I can see them just fine at 12X. On my 7mm Rem mag. I have a 2-7x Redfield.
 
I had the same issue with a savage 10FP years ago. The plastic stock was garbage. Upgraded the stock and my groups were reduced to .75 MOA.
 
I did almost the same thing to a Savage 110. I went with a laminated thumb hole stock. My buddy has a gun shop and he walked me through everything. Here\'s the kicker, I used the gun for a bear hunt and was told to have it sighted in at 30 yards. So that\'s the extent of my shooting with it. One of these days I\'m gonna sight it in at a decent distance for southern MO, probably 150 yards :D My guess is it will reach out there and hold a good group though. I didn\'t change triggers, I was plenty happy with the accu-trigger that came on it. I have a Browning BLR that I never could get better than softball sizes groups at 100. Re crowned the barrel and had the triggger lightened but she\'s just not a shooter. It\'s a pretty fun but definitely not a shooter.
 
Saturday was sunny and 55 degrees when I got off work and a very slight breeze. So........ 5 rounds at 100 yards to have a base starting point. Remington Core Lokt 180 grain. I didn\'t care for the trigger pull. I am ordering some Timney springs today. I will see if that improves on the next calm day. Then try to find a hand load that she likes. Any 300WM guys have a load that works for them?

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The squares are 1 inch. I have it sighted a tad high at 100 yards and on at 200.
 
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