New To Elk Hunting

You definitely want those lifters at 45 degrees. Call right away Tuesday and ask to speak to someone (with clout there). They'll take care of you more than likely. Usually when I shop anywhere in store I just don't rely on CS help anymore... sad but true. You did your homework, bought accordingly and let someone change your mind you know nothing about. It happens. They've paid shipping back for others, but not always... rest assured when you get this ironed out you're getting a good pack.

FYI you're not alone with CS being less than great from this brand...
 
Thanks. I know Ill get a new pack. They have 60 day return and I have not even taken the tags off. But I hope they pay shipping It was not my fault.


On another note I learned I have been shooting wrong. I hover relax and squeeze with as little movement as I can. I shot pretty well like that. But now i learned about back tension. Ive been practicing with a string inside. I can make it work pretty well but when I go to shoot my bow which is like 5 yards away so I dont miss, Im having trouble tripping the trigger. I think im keeping my finger too light and as I squeeze my shoulders together I keep letting up gradually on myfinger to not trip the trigger. I think I worry Ill trip it off too soon on accident. I am thinking to stiffin the trigger so that I can put more weight from my finger on it and not trip it. While shooting it seems like I gotta push and pull so hard im bout to crap myself to trip it. Im not doing something right. Is there any tips for this. Maybe I need an instructor to point me in the right direction.
 
It's a Scott I think little goose. It looks pretty close to the little goose online but it's about 4 years old. I know it's camo with red one the release part and trigger.
 
I shoot the mongoose with a light trigger. Try laying the first joint of your finger in the corner of the trigger and body and pull into that. I try to use back tension, but it's nice to have a light trigger when you have to make the shot now.
 
That's kind of what I thought. I mean hunting is a different situation but while target practicing I wanna do it right if I can.
 
I still really cant get it to work. Sometimes I cant even trip the trigger. It seems to help if I have my release on super tight so it moves less when I draw. But it hurts my wrist. When Im trying my back muscles are burning im pulling so hard and trying to squeeze them together. My draw length is a touch long would that maybe be the problem. When I use my string bow I made i can get it to work pretty well and trip in a second or two. But with  my real bow sometimes I cant get it to at all and when it does It takes forever and my whole body is shaking about to pull hard. I feel like my bow is set up wrong or my release or my form its should not be this hard to do.
 
My trigger is light and my wrist strap snug but not tight. You should be holding with your shoulder muscles to begin with. All you want to do is squeeze you back tighter, trigger finger should be what moves against the trigger. The whole idea of back tension is for the shot to be asurprise. I work with my bow and a bag target inside at 5' away. It does take time to master.
 
I think I figured it out. I was trying to rotate too much which was pulling my hand out. I tried to keep my hand over my shoulder and that helped a lot.
 
Hey guys question here on camo. Do you need it?


I have some good hiking layers and a decent lightweight down jacket and some other stuff that are solid colors. Most are black. I wore them alot for Treestand hunting where you would never get hot and usually trying to stay warm so you never really took off you big camo over coat. I do have a quiet really lightweight camo rain coat that when it gets time to get close to elk I could throw that on over top.


What do you guys think?
 
I wear lots of solids, more every year... lots of earth tones but solids none the less. When I buy technical hunting clothing now from Sitka kuiu or FL it's 95% for the clothing properties themselves... and not for the camo. I do have plenty of vias and optifade but I feel it's less necessary the more I hunt. I wear as much wool as I can and rarely is that made in camo.

my preferred weapon is traditional archery where shots need to be CLOSE and camo (i feel) is still overrated. It's probably the most over analyzed, over exaggerated piece of gear you have is what camo you're wearing... Unless your turkey hunting, then every point I made is moot.
 
Thanks for the info. I know camo patterns are super over rated. But was not sure if you still need something. I know in the woods there is no such thing as a solid color. Do you know if earth colors are better than black? I wonder exactly what colors elk see.
 
I think you'll find that solids will blob and make you stand out. Take a solid shirt and a camo shirt, hang them out in the woods. Walk away and turn around every few yards and check them out. Camo and shadows help break up your outline.
 
Atleast in deer hunting one of the most important things is to cover your face and hands and have a good back drop. I will probably buy a lightweight camo top that I think I'll wear a lot but I'm not gonna go buy a whole camo system when I have almost everything in some sort of solid color.
 
I have a question. Is there anyway to get half way accurate weather for the area your hunting Or is the best you can do just choose the weather for a near by town. Im sure the weather will be different at 10k plus feet than at the town at 7k feet.
 
National Weather Service's fire weather and predictive services can get you half way close.... you can pick an exact GPS point off a map and it'll give you a forecast for that spot. You're still subject to human error as the forecasters still can make mistakes but it's the best I've found. They'll some times even vary from peak to peak  1-2 miles away things like precip potential and temps can vary slightly which tells me someone is at least paying attention.
 
Thanks I'll check that out. I know no weather is that accurate but it can help a lot. A lot of the time it can get you close. Thanks
 
Bought a new to me bow last night that I am super excited about. Its a Mathews MR6. It came fully set up. The accessory im most excited about is the Spot Hogg 7 pin sight. I was going to buy one but it came with it. It also came with a super nice TSA approved hard case. Right now the bow is set at 84lbs. Ill shoot it for a while and see If I should drop it down to 80lb for hunting. I shot about 30 shots last night and I shot it pretty well.
 
Howdy. Thought I'd chime in with some thoughts about elk hunting. You had mentioned camo and wondered if it was over rated. Anything that breaks up your outline is all you need. A lot of elk have been shot by people wearing red and black plaid.  I have been well within shooting range of elk while wearing solid shorts and a bright blue shirt. The most important thing is movement. If you can see there eyes they can see you and they will notice movement easily. Elk don't see color so it's possible you could hunt elk wearing a Hawaiian shirt as long as it broke up your outline. (I haven't tried that)

You also said you bought a bow that is set at 84lbs. That is far more than you need. My Parents both hunt with bows set at 50lbs. Shot placement is by far the most important thing. I shoot my bow set at 70lbs because I like it to be as flat shooting as possible and the extra poundage will help with penetration if your shot hits something it shouldn't (like a shoulder). If you shoot the bow fine at 84lbs then you might not want to change it but don't be afraid to turn it down if it helps your accuracy. You may also need to hold it back for a while and less poundage makes that easier. The bull I shot this year came down the hill at me and I drew when he was 70 yards out because he was going to run out of cover and I didn't want to try to draw with him in the open. I had to hold my bow back for around 2 minutes before he came down and I shot him at 16 yards.

The other thing I would say about being new to elk hunting is that you have a huge bonus going for you in that you live in the state you will be elk hunting. The number one thing that I think has helped me as a hunter is that I used to hunt elk year round. I would carry a camera 11 months out of the year and a bow for one month. Mostly I was out scouting or looking for sheds or mushrooms but I was out in the woods every chance I got and that seemed to help me to learn a lot about elk and there behavior as well as the places they call home. Just getting out into the elk woods will help you to not only be in hunting shape physically but mentally as well.
 
Thanks for the info. I know actual camo does not matter but Ive got for example a almost neon green down jacket that is nice but I feel like they would notice that. But I guess by the time you have your arm guard, your pack straps your binos and your bow infront of you they probably would not notice the bits of solid color.


With the bow I already turned it down to 80 or what I think is 80. I turned it 3/4 turns out. Its not too much to handle but I shot like 40 shots last night with it and when I shot a few this morning I could feel my muscles just a bit wore out. I will not be ashamed to drop it to 75 if need be but I dont think that would be necessary. I have a half a year left and I will get stronger. It would be awesome to get an 80lb bow in something that is super smooth and not a speed bow. Mine is technically a speed bow but it is pretty smooth and not hard to draw.
 
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